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This is the belief that the whole body continues after death.
What form does this after life take?
Is it a world like this world?
What is the body like when it has been recreated? (Young Old Ill healthy) Where is this place (afterlife)? And why hasn’t anyone found it?
Must the body be recognisable as the person was before they died?
He argues that in certain circumstances the dead can exist after death. If an exact replica of
them were to appear complete with memories and characteristics. As God is all powerful this
recreation of the dead is totally possible although death can destroy us God can recreate us.
1 Corinthians 15 verse 35-44
Asks lots of questions.
God gives each kind of seed its own body.
Heavenly bodies and earthly bodies. Both different.
Sun one kind of splendour, moon another.
Raised bodies imperishable
Raised as a spiritual body.
Men have one kind of flesh animals have another.
Doesn’t state where they go and who goes where.
Selection, judgement. No talk of it.
Bodies raised will live forever.
No mention of exclusion.
Everything in heaven has a body. Anything spiritual lives in heaven.
Paul also talks about resurrection and about how the body will be raised and
transformed into something better, something spiritual. E.g. seed into plant. Identity
the same but outcome is different.
He has his replica theory.
Hypothetical story of john smith.
Because God is so powerful it would be possible for him to replicate the dead john
smith, who had died in the USA, in India.
James Take Over!!!! 11/1/07
A problem raised with John Hicks replica theory is a basic fundamental question. Is the same “I” that existed before death the same as the “I” in the replica, in the afterlife.
Kant says that our understanding of reality is subjective and what we call reality is based upon our understanding of a set of circumstances that we experience. He argues that reality itself is separate from how we perceive it.
Because we perceive we have a body does that actually mean we have one!?!?!??!!??
What you perceive to be real can be completely different someone else‟s reality.
Our understanding of certain circumstances is only our interpretation, not everyone else‟s.
What is reality? What is the Truth?
Reality is separate from how we understand it; we cannot understand true reality because it is beyond our comprehension.
Just because we can‟t comprehend life after death doesn‟t mean it‟s not real.
Just because we can‟t comprehend living without a physical body doesn‟t mean we actually need one.
If the physical world consists of „ideas‟ rather than matter and what really exists is spirit then there is no physical body to worry about anyway.
The illusion that we have a physical body is removed as we travel to the next world in a spiritual form.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Hegel says that out knowledge of the world is only through the order that our mind imposes on our experiences. We cannot be certain of any set of material physical objects, not even our own body. Hegel says that our minds are not ultimately real he says that there is a separate underlying ABLOSUTE SPIRIT.
Our minds and other things in the world come from this absolute spirit
Hegel set out to show that History itself is THE development of this spirit through time as it becomes self aware and reaches fulfilment through time and harmony as everything in the past makes sense and the world becomes a better place = We‟ll see the whole (bigger) picture and everything will make sense! Woop!
Geist – absolute spirit
Hegel sees this as evidence of an afterlife and history because we are all part of the Geist which continues to move through history after we die. You don‟t have
to be religious to necessarily believe in life after death!
“You are not a human being having a
experience; you‟re a spiritual
being having a human
Wayne W Dyer
Some people see the idea of a geist (the absolute spirit) as evidence of an after life. Because we are all part of this absolute spirit and time continues even after we die, therefore we continue to live on in this absolute spirit even after our physical body has died.
Some people use Hegel to argue against life after death. Marx used Hegel to argue that there is no life after death (Marx is just a materialist; says that we are just a complex machine) and that we should be concerned abut the here and the now. He says we should all have social and political concerns and it is only through class struggle and the removal of oppression (which only humans can do) that the world reaches its fulfilment and that life becomes how it was intended which is good, fair, just etc. this links back perfectly to liberation theology and its idea of the grass roots and the struggle for freedom/liberation here and now.
Dualism is the belief that our mind is our personality and our real self. Our body is destined for decay but our soul is immortal. Our mind is associated with higher realities such as truth, goodness, justice……
PLATO. In his book republic he talks about the soul and says that it belongs to a reality higher than the body and it is immortal (think back to the world of forms). He says that everything has an existence in the world of forms and the world of forms is a spiritual world of reality. It is only the soul, according to Plato, that can grasp and fully understand the world of ideas. The soul yearns to travel to the world of forms and return back from where it came. Plato believes in the pre-existence of the soul (it exists before the body). He used the analogy of the charioteer to show how the soul steers the mind and the body back to this reality. Remember there is a conflict between the body and the mind because the body is concerned about physical needs and the mind is concerned with thinking. The aim of the soul is to brake free from the chains of matter and the body in which we are imprisoned.
ARISTOTLE said that the soul is the part of the body that gives it life, he calls it de anima; our raison d’etre. Aristotle disagrees with Plato
and says that the two are inseparable, that the soul cannot survive after death, that once the body stops then your reason for being also stops. He says our soul develops our skills and personality. At
first sight he appears to be a materialist but he does believe that
the soul is distinct from the body but totally dependent on it.
DISTINCT BUT INSEPARABLE.